Hogg vs. Carville civil war reveals the Democratic Party’s sorry state

Hogg vs. Carville civil war reveals the Democratic Party's sorry state


Born: 1944

Nickname: The Ragin’ Cajun 

In the white corner: David Hogg, current Democratic National Committee vice chairman, Harvard grad, social media. 

Born: 2000 

Nickname: David “Attention” Hogg  

On paper, such a rhetorical boxing match would be a mismatch, with Carville’s experience and success, albeit from some time ago, winning the day. But Hogg has recently been arguably the most outspoken member of the party, although “outspoken” doesn’t necessarily mean “productive” or “smart.” 

As far as rhetorical haymakers go, these two have been lobbing them at each other in recent days. The conflict? Carville believes Hogg is doing everything he can do to fracture a Democratic Party still reeling from President Donald Trump’s victory on Nov. 5, while Hogg believes Carville represents an old and dated guard that needs much younger, more liberal blood. 

Carville is rightly and especially peeved at Hogg’s plan, as a leader of the DNC, to raise $20 million to primary and defeat fellow Democrats ahead of the 2026 midterm elections in search of “new blood.” 

“He is a contemptible little twerp,” Carville declared this week on NewsNation. 

“The most insane thing I ever heard is the vice chair of the Democratic National Committee is spending $20 million running against other Democrats. Aren’t we supposed to run against Republicans?” Carville rhetorically asked on CNN recently while adding he’s thinking of bringing legal action against Hogg.

“What’s his plan to deal with our 27% approval rating? That’s my question to him,” Hogg retorted in a separate interview on the same network. 

“Carville believes in a politics of being timid, of hiding,” the 25-year-old continued. “We can’t simply just hide, as Carville repeatedly promoted, not to mention the fact that, frankly, he has not won an election since before I was born.” 

But it’s Hogg who’s already on shaky ground with his current boss at the DNC, Tim Walz protege Ken Martin. By Hogg’s own admission, Martin does not agree with his plan to primary Democrats with DNC money. 

“He certainly has different views,” Hogg told MSNBC when asked about Martin’s reaction to the primary plan. 

“It is the DNC’s longstanding position that primary voters — not the national party — should determine their Democratic candidates for the general election,” Martin responded in a statement. 

The DNC chairman is reportedly looking for options to replace his vice chairman after less than three months on the job. He would be wise to do so. But the big question is, how did Hogg get chosen for this lofty position in the first place? 

This is a guy who has called for the abolishment of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and defunding the police, all while stating that all Americans “have no right to own a gun.” Hogg also believes in legalizing all drugs and a 100% tax on anyone who exceeds $1 billion in earnings. 

On top of that, he also supports government-run universal healthcare and free college. Hogg also has stated he prefers to own a Portuguese water dog (which isn’t elitist or anything) over having any children.

“Long term it’s cheaper, better for the environment, and will never tell you that it hates you or ask you to pay for college,” Hogg explained.

Clearly Hogg is so far to the left, he makes AOC look moderate. Yet the DNC elected him to their second-highest ranking position anyway. 

Martin is barely visible in the media, perhaps due to lack of demand in a world of zinger soundbites. He doesn’t say provocative things or endorse radical plans like taking out sitting Democratic Congress members, while Hogg appears seemingly everywhere on CNN and MSNBC.

And Hogg isn’t backing down. He has decided that comments like these below will bring in just the kind of voters the party has lost, including rank-and-file union members from the Teamsters to the United Steelworkers to the United Auto Workers, along with Latino and black voters.

Hogg told CBS News, “Democracy is what put us through school shooter drills and school shootings. It’s what’s put us through the climate crisis and so much more.”

Hogg posted on X, “Donald Trump is a dumb ass.” (Author’s note: “dumbass” is one word.)

Hogg also posted on X, “My family moved to Parkland because we couldn’t afford California’s astronomical housing costs, especially after my father faced medical retirement due to early-onset Parkinson’s disease. The housing crisis is obliterating the working class and the future of our party.” 

OK…

Florida is a red state with no income tax and is run by Republicans. California is a blue state run by Democrats with the highest tax rate in the country.

And again, Hogg is the DNC co-chair.

You get the idea. The Blue Team needs to cut this loose cannon loose before he brings the approval of the party down to 12%.

So who will win the power struggle? That remains to be seen. The New York Times, for its part, is offering advice in the form of a “story” that ran in its news section this week.

Headline: “What Is ‘Dark Woke’?”

Subheadline: “Democrats are trying out a new attitude. It’s provocative, edgy and perilously toeing the line of not being too offensive.”

The lede goes on to explain, “‘Dark woke’ for now, is a meme that lives mostly online. But its roots have been sown throughout the party for years. In the waning days of the Biden administration, memes about “Dark Brandon” often referred to the version of the former president that conservatives most feared.”

Wait, what!?!? There was a version of Joe Biden that “conservatives most feared”? This is the same president who was trailing Donald Trump even before that disastrous debate in Atlanta on June 27 when his brain turned to applesauce live in front of 70 million people. He would drop out of the race at his party’s urging 24 days later, leaving with one of the lowest approval ratings in presidential history. 

The Times story inexplicably points to Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) and Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) as examples of those who are models for “dark woke.” This is the same Crockett who recently wished for Elon Musk to be “taken out” as her ultimate birthday president. 

She’s also the same person who argued that Americans cannot afford their “home [and] groceries” thanks to deportations carried out by the Trump administration that has almost exclusively focused on removing gang members who entered the country illegally. 

And Crockett is the same lawmaker who ridiculed Gov. Gregg Abbott (R-TX) for being in a wheelchair due to paralysis by referring to him as “Gov. Hot Wheels.”

And all of this was said just in the past month alone. 

As for Walz, he has called on voters to “demonize” Elon Musk while also claiming he is a “greedy bastard” who doesn’t pay taxes (Musk is the single largest individual taxpayer in U.S. history who has paid more than $10 billion in taxes annually on some occasions). 

Walz also openly rooted for Tesla stock to drop despite his own state’s pension fund having millions invested in the country. 

And just two weeks after Donald Trump was nearly assassinated and the temperature of the country clearly needed to be turned down, he went down this road: 

“Are they (Trump and JD Vance) a threat to democracy? Yes. Are they going to take our rights away? Yes. Are they going to put people’s lives in danger? Yes. Are they going to endanger the planet by not dealing with climate change? Yes.” 

Yep. Crockett and Walz should definitely be role models for how the party could win back voters, especially independents. 

James Carville wants the Democratic Party of old to return. The party of Bill Clinton that embraced balanced budget amendments, deported illegal immigrants, and passed welfare reform. 

David Hogg wants the opposite. 

JEFFRIES PUSHES BACK ON HOGG PLAN TO PRIMARY DEM INCUMBENTS

All while performance artists like Crockett and Walz continue to alienate voters with ridiculous and incendiary comments. 

Such is life for Democrats in 2025, where it’s hard to find anyone worth rooting for these days…



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